Join us for this timely truth-telling conversation with multi-medium artist Kris Grey and author and psychoanalyst, Griffin Hansbury. Our guests crack open the delusions of binary gender and hyper-normativity, bringing forth expansive modes of being and thinking. This episode invites all to experience the pleasure and potency of nuanced subversion and non-conformity.
About Our Guests
Griffin Hansbury, LCSW-R, is the author of several books, including Feral City (as Jeremiah Moss) and the Stonewall Award-winning novel Some Strange Music Draws Me In. His writing on the city has appeared in many publications, including n+1, the New Yorker, and the Paris Review. His clinical writing has received the Ralph Roughton Paper Award and appeared in the Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association, Psychoanalytic Dialogues, and Studies in Gender and Sexuality, among other journals. He practices as a psychoanalyst in New York City.
Follow these links to learn more about Griffin’s work:
griffinhansburywriter.com
griffinhansbury.com
Kris Grey is a New York City based transgender artist who uses their body as raw material, often presenting themselves in states of extreme vulnerability as an invitation to experience transcendence or discover hidden queer histories. Grey’s cultural work includes curatorial projects, performance, writing, and studio production. Grey has been a resident artist at the Bronx Museum, Fire Island Artist Residency, ANTI Festival for Contemporary Art, International Centre for Training in the Performing Arts, Wave Hill, and the Museum of Contemporary Art in Tucson. Grey’s writing, Trans*feminism: fragmenting and re-reading the history of art through a trans* perspective, was published by Manchester University Press in Otherwise: Imagining Queer Feminist Art Histories. Grey earned a Bachelor of Fine Art from the Maryland Institute College of and a Masters Degree in Fine Art from Ohio University. They perform, teach, and exhibit work internationally.Follow these links to learn more about Kris Grey’s work:
Tension & Tethers Artist Lecture SVA 2024 (one hour)
Kris Grey Website
Kris Grey Instagram

Foluke Taylor
Jyoti M. Rao is a psychoanalyst and holds faculty appointments at the San Francisco Center for Psychoanalysis, The Asian American Center for Psychoanalysis, and The New York Psychoanalytic Society and Institute. Her publications, which explore the intersection between unconscious process and social phenomena, have appeared in the International Journal of Applied Psychoanalytic Studies, Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association, Parapraxis Magazine, Room: A Sketchbook for Analytic Action, Studies in Gender and Sexuality, and elsewhere. She is in private practice in the San Francisco Bay Area.
George Makari
Francisco J. González is a psychoanalyst who helped found and co-directs the Community Psychoanalysis Track at the Psychoanalytic Institute of Northern California (PINC) in San Francisco which is spearheading a movement to bring community work to psychoanalytic training. He also conducts, teaches, and supervises traditional dyadic psychoanalysis at PINC, and is on the faculty of the NYU Postdoctoral Program in Psychoanalysis. His writing focuses on the articulation of individual and collective psychic life, including in the domains of gender, sexuality, racialized difference, and immigration. He has been the recipient of the Symonds Award, the Ralph E. Roughton Paper Award, and co-recipient of the JAPA Award for the Best Published Paper 2019. He serves on the editorial boards of Psychoanalytic Dialogues, JAPA, and Parapraxis and on the Holmes Commission on Racial Equality in American Psychoanalysis. He practices privately in San Francisco and Oakland and in the public domain at Instituto Familiar de la Raza in San Francisco.